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S P's avatar

Good article! I share your philosophy (I'm not going for yachty glamor, but I like attractive woods and want them visible).

I did not take the exceptional precautions you did (wait days or thoroughly scrub the epoxy). I did use a low-blush epoxy (Total Boat 2:1).

It seems to be holding up fine after a year of epoxy-killing desert sun.

Jon Michael Ferguson's avatar

That gives me hope. I'm still building and all this Cetol stuff was hypothetical to me till I did the experiment.

S P's avatar

I'm glad! I've been building off and on for 20+years, relatively new to Cetol, and still learning.

Paul Schupbach's avatar

I’m new to this product. How does it differ from spar varnish ???

Jon Michael Ferguson's avatar

Cetol is a pigmented synthetic wood finish (e.g., Sikkens Cetol Marine) that uses iron oxide for strong UV protection. It forms a flexible, microporous film, applies easily (few coats, often no sanding between), lasts longer with less maintenance, and has a satin/translucent look that can tint wood amber/orange.

Spar varnish is a traditional clear marine varnish (oil + resin) designed for flexibility against wood movement and weather. It delivers a high-gloss, deep amber clarity that highlights grain but needs many coats with sanding and more frequent upkeep.

Key difference: Cetol prioritizes durability and ease over pure clarity; spar varnish prioritizes classic gloss aesthetics.

Jerry McIntire's avatar

Jon is mostly accurate, except that spar varnish is available in gloss, semi-gloss, and satin/matte finishes. It is more demanding in application and in refinishing. An important note about Cetol: it will add a decided orange color to your wood, which is part of the reason it protects against UV well. Check a sample to decide if that's acceptable to you.

Another alternative to varnish and Cetol is Teak Guard from All Guard. I like it because it is even easier to apply, is non-toxic, and can be renewed as easily as Cetol: just clean, buff with steel wool or very fine sandpaper, and add a coat. No VOCs.

Jon Michael Ferguson's avatar

Neat, I hadn't heard of that one. Maybe you should write an article.

Stephen Borgstrom's avatar

For brightwork in a marine environment Cetol says renew the top coat every 12-18 months to maintain the UV protection, with an epoxy basecoat you really want to maintain that anti-UV overcoat. I've been down this road, stripping everything back down to bare wood is no fun, even if the last layer is deteriorated epoxy. UV damaged fillets lose their strength and become a soft, crumbly mess so pay good attention to them as well. I have a pair of older Pygmy kayaks that I thought I'd kept well varnished until a few years ago when one needed a repair, the layer of fiberglass tying the S&G hull together was barely holding onto the wood.

I'm just putting this out as a cautionary tale about clear finishes over epoxy, they still need regular maintenance and unlike paint it can look good but not be doing the job you were hoping for.

Jon Michael Ferguson's avatar

Seems like an annual refresh is something one should have on the maintenance calendar.

Paul Schupbach's avatar

I use spar varnish quite often always satin finish . It too changes color a little bit. Sounds like a decent product but will need to try some samples first

Jon Michael Ferguson's avatar

Cetol isn't perfect and some folks just can't stand the color. I'm from Big Orange country so you know, LOL... Definitely do some experiments before you commit. If you want satin finish with Cetol after it's well cured, you just scuff it with a gray scotch brite pad and that knocks the gleam down.

Brad Cote's avatar

I used Cetol in the late 1990s on a Pacific Seacraft 31. Good protection, but I did not like the orange color. I used Minwax Helmsman on my Tartan 34c. Good but barely lasted the short Chicago boating seasons. I bought a Ross Lillistone designed Phoenix III on which the builder used TotalBoat Halcyon. I liked the look and the ability to overcoat without sanding within a time window. I used Halcyon on the teak of a 41 foot Morgan (you have not lived until you have stripped teak rail bare on a 41 ft boat). Two Chicago summers, two Mac races with two overcoats in the spring on a 12 coat base - still looks fantastic. Here is where to get it, plus an excellent overview of varnish types. https://www.totalboat.com/collections/varnish

Hal Palmer's avatar

I like this approach as I was considering it for my brightwork

Jay Knight's avatar

I have had a love/hate relationship with Cetol, my current efforts to have shiny, good looking trim wood is sanded epoxy and Pettit High Build Flagship varnish. Looks pretty good, maybe a little dark but sure shiny. And like a crow, I like shiny!

Jerry McIntire's avatar

Thorough test, I am surprised that your sample held up well to soaking in a bucket of water, with the backside being raw wood.

You wrote, "Other more accepted varnish systems like Epifanes also discourage the use of varnish over epoxy." And then quoted, “Not suited for direct use on epoxy resin unless the amine blush from the epoxy has been removed first.” —Epifanes Clear Varnish Technical Datasheet (May 2022) I wouldn't call that discouraging the use of Cetol over epoxy. It siimply makes it clear that amine blush must be removed. Washing and sanding do the job.

Jon Michael Ferguson's avatar

Thanks Jerry, that's a solid point.